Write copy that gets a \"yes\" using Joanna Wiebe's research-first, Voice of Customer methodology Use when: **Writing landing pages, emails, or sales pages** that need measurable conversion results; **Starting a new copy project** and need a systematic process to follow; **Struggling with what to write** and staring at a blank page; **Wanting to prove ROI** to clients with data-backed decisions; **Improving existing copy** through validation and testing
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# Conversion Copywriting - Data-Driven Copy That Converts
> Write copy that gets a "yes" using Joanna Wiebe's research-first, Voice of Customer methodology
## When to Use This Skill
- **Writing landing pages, emails, or sales pages** that need measurable conversion results
- **Starting a new copy project** and need a systematic process to follow
- **Struggling with what to write** and staring at a blank page
- **Wanting to prove ROI** to clients with data-backed decisions
- **Improving existing copy** through validation and testing
- **Training yourself or your team** on professional copywriting methodology
## Methodology Foundation
| Aspect | Details |
|--------|---------|
| **Source** | Copyhackers, Copy School |
| **Expert** | Joanna Wiebe - Creator of the term "conversion copywriting," founder of Copyhackers |
| **Core Principle** | "Conversion copywriting is data-driven copy that gets prospects to say yes. It's a science-based process that determines what to write and how to write it." |
## What Claude Does vs What You Decide
| Claude Does | You Decide |
|-------------|------------|
| Structures production workflow | Final creative direction |
| Suggests technical approaches | Equipment and tool choices |
| Creates templates and checklists | Quality standards |
| Identifies best practices | Brand/voice decisions |
| Generates script outlines | Final script approval |
## What This Skill Does
This skill transforms copywriting from a guessing game into a systematic, data-driven process. Instead of staring at a blank page and hoping inspiration strikes, you'll:
1. **Research first** - Find your messages in customer language, not your imagination
2. **Listen more than write** - Let Voice of Customer (VOC) data do the heavy lifting
3. **Validate before launching** - Test copy before committing fully
4. **Measure everything** - Know what's working and why
The result: Copy that converts because it says what customers actually want to hear, in the words they already use.
## How to Use
### Prompt Examples
```
Guide me through the conversion copywriting process for my [landing page/email/sales page].
Start with research questions I should answer before writing.
```
```
Help me extract Voice of Customer data from these customer reviews for my [product].
Identify the strongest messages and organize them into a hierarchy.
```
```
I have this VOC data: [paste data]. Turn it into copy for a [page type]
using the Copyhackers methodology.
```
```
Create a wireframe outline for my [landing page] that organizes these messages:
[list messages]. Include awareness stage transitions and CTA placement.
```
```
Run the 7 Sweeps editing process on this copy: [paste copy].
Start with the Clarity Sweep and work through all seven.
```
## Instructions
### The 3-Part Process Overview
```
┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ 1. RESEARCH & DISCOVERY │ 2. WRITE, WIREFRAME, EDIT │ 3. VALIDATE & TEST │
│ (Biggest phase) │ (Synthesis phase) │ (Proof phase) │
└─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
```
No phase is optional. Even if a client says "just write," you still need research.
---
### Part 1: Research & Discovery
> "If research is not the biggest part of the work, 99% of the time it means you're doing it wrong."
**Goal**: Find your messages in customer language—don't invent them.
#### Research Checklist
**Internal Sources:**
- [ ] Existing website copy audit
- [ ] Product pages and feature descriptions
- [ ] Sales call transcripts/recordings
- [ ] Customer support tickets
- [ ] Chat transcripts
- [ ] Email sequences currently in use
- [ ] Brochures and sales materials
**Customer Sources:**
- [ ] Customer surveys (existing or new)
- [ ] Thank-you page polls
- [ ] Customer interviews (transcribed)
- [ ] Review mining (Amazon, G2, Capterra, Trustpilot)
- [ ] Social media comments and discussions
- [ ] Forum posts and Reddit threads
- [ ] Testimonials and case studies
**Competitive Sources:**
- [ ] Competitor website audits
- [ ] Competitor reviews (especially negative ones)
- [ ] Industry forums and discussions
**Analytics Sources:**
- [ ] Click tracking data
- [ ] Heatmaps and scroll maps
- [ ] Conversion funnel analysis
- [ ] Exit survey data
#### How to Mine VOC Data
**What to look for:**
1. **Pain language** - How do they describe their problem?
2. **Desire language** - What outcome do they want?
3. **Objection language** - What's stopping them?
4. **Trigger language** - What made them start looking?
5. **Value language** - What benefits matter most?
6. **Emotional language** - How do they feel about all of the above?
**How to organize:**
- Tag each insight by type (pain, desire, objection, etc.)
- Note the source and frequency
- Identify patterns and repeating themes
- Rank by strength/emotion
---
### Part 2: Writing, Wireframing & Editing
#### The Writing Setup
**Joanna's Split-Screen Method:**
1. Open research/VOC data on LEFT side of screen
2. Open writing document on RIGHT side
3. Search VOC data for relevant keywords
4. Copy-paste actual customer language
5. Refine into copy (don't reinvent)
> "You don't sit there and just start writing. Split your screen in two and take what people are saying and put it on the page."
#### The Writing Process
**Step 1: Determine Awareness Stage**
Where is your reader starting?
| Stage | They Know | Example Headline Approach |
|-------|-----------|---------------------------|
| Unaware | Nothing | Lead with the problem/pain |
| Problem-Aware | They have a problem | Agitate the problem |
| Solution-Aware | Solutions exist | Differentiate your solution |
| Product-Aware | Your product exists | Prove you're the best choice |
| Most Aware | Ready to buy | Make the offer irresistible |
**Step 2: Map Your Messaging Hierarchy**
What messages need to appear, and in what order?
1. **Primary Message** - The one thing they must understand
2. **Supporting Messages** - Evidence that backs up the primary
3. **Objection Handlers** - Address what's holding them back
4. **Call to Action** - The specific next step
**Step 3: Select Your Framework**
| Framework | Best For |
|-----------|----------|
| PAS (Problem-Agitate-Solve) | Short copy, high problem-awareness |
| AIDA (Attention-Interest-Desire-Action) | Longer sales pages |
| PPPP (Picture-Promise-Prove-Push) | Visual products |
| PASOP (Problem-Agitate-Solution-Outcome-Proof) | Complex solutions |
**Step 4: Draft Using VOC**
Take raw VOC and transform:
**Raw VOC:**
> "I was so frustrated with spreadsheets. Every month I'd spend 8 hours just reconciling data and I'd still find errors."
**Transformed into Copy:**
> "Tired of losing 8+ hours every month to spreadsheet reconciliation—only to find errors anyway?"
#### The 7 Sweeps Editing Process
After your first draft, run these sweeps in order:
| Sweep | Focus | Key Question |
|-------|-------|--------------|
| **1. Clarity** | Is it clear? | Would a 12-year-old understand? |
| **2. Voice** | Does it sound right? | Is this how the brand/customer talks? |
| **3. Proof** | Is it believable? | Where's the evidence? |
| **4. Specificity** | Is it specific? | Can I add numbers, names, details? |
| **5. Stickiness** | Is it memorable? | Will they remember this tomorrow? |
| **6. Emotion** | Does it make them feel? | Where's the emotional hook? |
| **7. Zero** | What can I cut? | Does every word earn its place? |
**Clarity is ALWAYS first.** Above everything else, copy must be clear.
#### Wireframing
Create a visual layout showing:
- Where each message block goes
- Image/video placeholders with notes
- CTA placement and copy
- Mobile considerations
Tools: Figma, Balsamiq, Photoshop, or even Google Docs with boxes
---
### Part 3: Validation & Experimentation
> "We test to validate and learn."
**Goal**: Ensure you're putting the best version out before committing.
#### Validation Methods
| Method | Best For | What It Tells You |
|--------|----------|-------------------|
| **5 Second Test** | Headlines, hero sections | Clarity (not persuasion) |
| **UserTesting** | Full page experience | Usability, comprehension |
| **Wynter** | B2B messaging | Message resonance |
| **Preview Emails** | Email copy | Open/click behavior |
| **Scroll/Click Maps** | Soft launch | Engagement patterns |
#### A/B Testing When Possible
Test one variable at a time:
- Headlines
- CTAs
- Lead image
- Offer structure
- Social proof placement
**Note**: You can't A/B test everything. Validation fills the gaps.
---
## Examples
### Example 1: SaaS Landing Page Process
**Research Phase (Week 1):**
- Interviewed 5 customers
- Mined 50 G2 reviews
- Analyzed 10 competitor pages
- Reviewed 20 support tickets
**Key VOC Finding:**
> "I was drowning in Slack notifications. By the time I found the message I needed, I'd lost 20 minutes and my train of thought."
**Messaging Hierarchy:**
1. Primary: "Find any message in seconds, not minutes"
2. Supporting: AI-powered search across all channels
3. Objection Handler: "Works with your existing Slack—no migration"
4. CTA: "Start free trial"
**Draft Headline:**
> "Stop drowning in Slack. Find any message in seconds."
**After 7 Sweeps:**
> "Find any Slack message in 3 seconds. Not 20 minutes."
> (Added specificity, cut unnecessary words)
**Validation:**
- 5 Second Test: 85% understood the value prop
- A/B tested against control: +34% signups
---
### Example 2: Email Sequence for Course Launch
**VOC from Survey:**
> "I keep signing up for courses but never finish them. I feel guilty every time I see another one in my inbox."
**Email 1 Subject (Problem-Aware):**
> "That course you never finished? Not your fault."
**Email 1 Opening:**
> "You've bought courses before. Started strong. Then... nothing.
>
> The guilt sits there in your inbox. Every email from that course creator feels like a reminder of another thing you didn't follow through on.
>
> Here's the thing: It's not a willpower problem."
**Transformation Notes:**
- Used exact phrase "never finish"
- Captured the "guilt" emotion from VOC
- Moved from Problem → Solution setup
---
## Checklists & Templates
### Pre-Writing Research Checklist
```markdown
## Research Checklist for: [Project Name]
### Customer Voice Sources
- [ ] Customer interviews (min 3-5)
- [ ] Survey responses (min 50)
- [ ] Review mining completed
- [ ] Support tickets analyzed
- [ ] Sales call recordings reviewed
### Competitive Intel
- [ ] Top 3 competitors audited
- [ ] Competitor reviews analyzed
- [ ] Positioning gaps identified
### Internal Sources
- [ ] Existing copy audited
- [ ] Analytics reviewed
- [ ] Team interviewed (sales, support)
### Synthesis
- [ ] Pain points ranked
- [ ] Desires ranked
- [ ] Objections listed
- [ ] Key messages identified
- [ ] Messaging hierarchy drafted
```
### VOC-to-Copy Translation Template
```markdown
## VOC Translation for: [Page/Email Name]
### Raw VOC Quote:
"[Paste exact customer language]"
### Source:
[Interview / Review / Survey / Support ticket]
### Message Type:
[ ] Pain [ ] Desire [ ] Objection [ ] Trigger [ ] Value
### Transformed Copy:
[Your refined version]
### Placement:
[ ] Headline [ ] Subhead [ ] Body [ ] CTA [ ] Testimonial
```
### 7 Sweeps Worksheet
```markdown
## 7 Sweeps for: [Asset Name]
### Sweep 1: Clarity
- [ ] Main message understood in 5 seconds?
- [ ] No jargon or insider language?
- [ ] Simple sentence structure?
### Sweep 2: Voice
- [ ] Sounds like the brand?
- [ ] Sounds like how customers talk?
- [ ] Consistent throughout?
### Sweep 3: Proof
- [ ] Claims backed by evidence?
- [ ] Testimonials/case studies included?
- [ ] Numbers and data where helpful?
### Sweep 4: Specificity
- [ ] Generic words replaced with specific?
- [ ] Numbers instead of "many" or "some"?
- [ ] Names, places, details added?
### Sweep 5: Stickiness
- [ ] Memorable phrases or hooks?
- [ ] Would reader recall this tomorrow?
- [ ] Any "quotable" lines?
### Sweep 6: Emotion
- [ ] Emotional trigger present?
- [ ] Reader can feel the pain/desire?
- [ ] Human, not robotic?
### Sweep 7: Zero
- [ ] Every word earns its place?
- [ ] Redundancies removed?
- [ ] Could be shorter without losing meaning?
```
---
## Skill Boundaries
### What This Skill Does Well
- Structuring audio production workflows
- Providing technical guidance
- Creating quality checklists
- Suggesting creative approaches
### What This Skill Cannot Do
- Replace audio engineering expertise
- Make subjective creative decisions
- Access or edit audio files directly
- Guarantee commercial success
## References
- **Courses**: Copyhackers Copy School, 10x Freelance Copywriter
- **Free Resources**: Copyhackers.com tutorials, Where Stellar Messages Come From (free ebook)
- **Expert**: Joanna Wiebe, original conversion copywriter
- **Source**: `sources/books/wiebe-conversion-copywriting.md`
## Related Skills
- **copy-frameworks** - PAS, AIDA, and other structures mentioned here
- **dan-kennedy-copy** - Direct response principles that complement this
- **landing-page-copy** - Specific application of these principles
- **email-writing** - Email-specific applications
- **headline-formulas** - For the headline writing portion
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